SHIT! I FORGOT TO MAKE ONE FUUUUUU
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I do Dash At The Night and Wakusei Project
I do draws and OCs.
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Please add me to collabs, i love them...
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@Solito I was mostly joking, but it is on the wiki. Don't see why there would be much of an issue with it though as long as it is kept T or under.
https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Femboy
Mainly because it is a "slur" term and could be offensive, and because the community was doing sexual things that were not very pleasant and not at pleasant ages
but it should be noted that I have no problem with trans people!
In short, it is to avoid internal problems in the collab and not affect any artist without knowledge about it haha
@Quest @Solito I am _not_ an expert, but to the best of my knowledge, Femboy is no a slur - _unless_ you refer to a trans women as "Femboy". (You might be thinking of "Trap", which is a word that maliciously implies that the person in question "tricked" somebody.)
"Originally, the term [Femboy] was used as a pejorative against non-masculine men but has since been reappropriated, although it may still be used as a slur against trans women."
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femboy#Definitions
@Tyhond, also refers to 'himself' as "Femboy".
Behold Blacklistcore, things that exist do not exist. I therefore do not exist-
*weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*
@Tyhond I was literally going to tag you, HAHAHA
@Quest XD I mean someone already mentioned me Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@Yatsufusa @Solito I've also never seen the word "femboy" used as a slur, even as someone part of that larger community (and as someone you might call an expert in recieving slurs). That's why I was so confused. I feel like your experience with oversexualization is a stereotype and not a good representation of femboys as a whole. Trans people are often highly sexualized too. Literally any topic can be sexualized or have sexual themes. There's plently of items from the aesthetics wiki that you didn't list with much more sexualized themes than femboys. I didn't feel like arguing this earlier as I probably won't have time for this collab. If any artist is "affected by it" then that is quite frankly their problem. They shouldn't be a bigot. Also what do you mean by internal problems? I feel like if an item is not sexualized, depicts adults, and kept at a T-rating or under for everything, I don't see why femboys would ever be a problem.
@Quest I pretty sure the only part of the internet that uses "femboy" as a slur would be twitter. The only time someone use a slur against me was on Newgrounds call me an F-word cause Femboy often associated with being "Gay" lol
But wait, how could this me? (˚ ˃̣̣̥⌓˂̣̣̥) Is it possible to have a slur against a word that is a slur?
Anyways, not a big deal, their collab, their rules. They can make whatever rules they want although it's already been 13 days since they posted and the talk of "Femboy" and not actually joining is a bit of a bummer :(
@Quest @Solito On the topic of oversexualization I'd like to state, even though I described Tyhond as a one-femboy-welcome-committee in the past I have never visualized him with a skirt and pom-poms or something fetish-y like that. To me, all of that stuff* is more just a part of people's 'identity'.
I might have a different view on this than most people, though. When talking to people online... And get 'this': People who will never even 'meet you in person' in their entire life... When said online people are male and suspect you are coded female, they will suddenly act in a way that I can only describe as "crotch-focused". As a bisexual, who some seemingly think are horny 24/7, I find the whole gender-/'crotch situation'-bit to be more of a footnote. If I like a developer, or an animator, or a reviewer, my opinion of them isn't suddenly going to change based on what bits of theirs could rub on what bits of mine.
@Tyhond One more thing we can rightfully blame Twitter/"X" for... (It would be funny if it wasn't sad...)
What a debate I've created haha, my apologies!
honestly all this came from having met a friend years ago who told me that the term "femboy" is a slur, and i wanted to avoid problems between artists and drama, ironically what I just did by blacklisting him
thanks for your words, I will reconsider the aesthetic and if any of you want to use it without it being offensive or over sexualized by me there is no problem! I also regret my ignorance for having banned it without having investigated well!
off topic, you can still register if you want, there are still many free spaces lol
https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/tyhond/tyhond-aesthetics-collab
Promoting this collab since not a lot of people know about it! :) Hope this collab becomes successful1
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@Solito If I have to jump in and add my two cents, “femboy” is a really contextual word considering that it’s used as both a genuine gender identity label (it’s gender presentation, like butch or femme) and a porn category (most of which is made by guys who don’t use the gender identity.) It also sometimes gets used by those types of cis guys to sexualize trans people. But again, some folks do genuinely use it as a label for their gender expression, and most of the ones I’ve met are more interested in the gender presentation (like @Tyhond’s cute outfits he puts his sona in) than the sexual role. I could go on a long rant about the gender politics and war of the sexes shit that has contributed to cis-het men getting off to the idea of a feminine woman as a reaction to women’s rights movements.
So the word isn’t bad in itself, it’s just the usage and intent.
And just like he promised, Tyhond brought me here, lol. I wish I could join, but I don’t do collabs these days because random people like to beef with me over random things (in case you can’t already tell from my gender politics ramble), so I’ll just work on promoting the collab as well.
Is I able to use a space aesthetician in this?
Of course! Spacecore is a real thing and it's still available if you want it. :D
@Solito thanks you
Can I join, I suck, but I'm working on it. Also, my art I physical, I would have to send you the image and we would have to digitalize it
NO PROBLEM WITH THAT!
There are aesthetics inspired more by traditional art like craftcore or doodlecore, even if you want to use another aesthetic but keep it traditional it's perfect! I love seeing thousands of varied and unique styles :D
@Solito thanks, I will make the art on whatever theme you tell me, just pm me, and I will draw it
I just searched up what doodle core is, and I think that I can do that
All yours!
Quest
No femboys?
Solito
"femboy" is not an aesthetic and should not be considered one, although if you want to use a male character with feminine clothing that's fine!